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Penn State v Nebraska

In honor of the Big Ten Network’s constant attempts to include pre-1993 Penn State and pre-2011 Nebraska in Big Ten history, I would like to highlight the age-old Penn State-Nebraska rivalry. Known for 63 years as “The Battle Of The Two Furthest Apart Schools That Will Eventually Be In The Big Ten”, or “The Battle of Newcomers Pissing Off Old-Time Big Ten Teams by Possibly Winning the League Tournament Early in Its History”. Rolls off the tongue.

The rivalry has four trophies: The Old Mahogany Bucket, The Little Burnt Sienna Jug, Johnny Appleseed’s Axe, and The Golden Visa/Shell Rewards Card For Travel to the Game”. After all, the two schools are 1,075 miles apart, which is over 18 hours in the car.

So, without further ado, I present you with the entirety of the Penn State-Nebraska Rivalry (it fits on one page!):

By all accounts, this was among PSU’s more dany-ish teams.

1949 @Penn St 22-7 Nebraska

1950 @Nebraska 19-0 Penn St

1951 Penn St 15-7 @Nebraska

Pennsylvania State College

1952 @Penn St(19) 10-0 Nebraska

1958 @Nebraska 14-7 Penn St

1979 @Nebraska(6) 42-17 Penn St(18)

1980 Nebraska(3) 21-7 @Penn St(11)

1981 Penn St(3) 30-24 @Nebraska(15)

The teams met after the football game for a little quidditch.

1982 @Penn St(8) 27-24 Nebraska(2) *PSU national champ

1983 Nebraska(1) 44-6 Penn St (4) (Giants Stadium)

2002 @Penn St(NR,25) 40-7 Nebraska(8,7)

Yes. It’s “UN”, not “NU”.

2003 @Nebraska(18) 18-10 Penn St

2011 Nebraska(19) 17-14 @Penn St(12)

For some reason Matt McGloin was left out of this team picture.

2012 Penn St at Nebraska(18)

All time series: Nebraska 7-6 Penn St

The 11th Game

The Bye Week. What is there to talk about during a bye week? Well, good job so far, fellas. A very good job so far. As we all know, these battlin’ Buckeyes of our’s will be going into the Wisconsin game with an unblemished record, 10-0. So I decided to pick the bye week to have a short little discussion (with myself) about going into the eleventh game of the season and being 10-0. The Buckeyes have played an 11th game of the season for the past 40 years. Every year from 1972 on has seen an 11th game. Then you have to go all the way back to 1905 to see another 11th game. And there was a 12th game in that 8-2-2 season. 1904 had eleven games, including a loss to the Carlisle Indians a few years before Jim Thorpe enrolled. In 1903 OSU was 8-3. In 1896 we were 5-5-1. In 1894 we were 6-5. In all, the Ohio State Buckeyes are 47-47-1 in games eleven and beyond (24-20-1 in 11th games only). That’s not too bad considering many of those games were bowl games and Cooper era Michigan games.

We have only been 10-0 going into that 11th game seven times. Well, eight, including this season. And we’ve been undefeated ten times. And in how many of those nine previous undefeated seasons did we finish with an undefeated record? Two times. 2002′s national championship season, and 1973′s Rose Bowl-winning, USC-defeating, 10-0-1 season. Of course, this season is different. We have “nothing” to play for. Well, we have an undefeated season to play for. We have The Game to play for, which is a lot considering that it IS the most important game of the season. And now on November 17th, if we needed something else to play for, we can be playing for only the sixth 11-0 record in our history. Go Bucks!

Red Grange was chosen as the Big Ten’s greatest icon by the Big Ten Network. I would have preferred that it be Woody Hayes, Archie Griffin, or Chic Harley (who wasn’t even included!), but I can’t complain too much about the choice of Grange. I’m just glad it wasn’t Bo Sklembachlor or Tom Osborne (since the BTN is so dead set on trying to convince the world that all of Nebraska and Penn State’s histories are relevant to Big Ten fans).

Harold Edward “Red” Grange was born in Forksville, Pennsylvania in 1903, but his family moved to Wheaton, Illinois when he was five. He was a high school, college, and pro football star, commentator, and some time actor. The day after his final college football game (against Ohio State) he and player/coach George Halas agreed terms for a contract with the Chicago Bears. Apparently he did alright for himself, but I’m more concerned with his school days.

After being a four sport star at Wheaton High School, earning 16 varsity letters in football, basketball, baseball, and track, he enrolled at the University of Illinois with the intention of competing only in basketball and track. He scored three touchdowns against Nebraska in his first game for the Illini, who went on to go undefeated and win the 1923 national championship – as did Fielding Yost’s Michigan team, since the teams didn’t play each other in that year’s Big Ten schedule. They did play in 1924 though, and every Buckeye should be a Red Grange fan for what he did to the defending national champion Wolverines in Memorial Stadium’s opening game. First, he returned the opening kickoff 95 yards for a touchdown. Then, he scored on a 67 yard run, again on a 56 yard run, and again on a 44 yard run, all in the game’s first 12 minutes. Those four touchdowns equaled the amount of touchdowns that Michigan had allowed during the entirety of the previous two seasons. He then sat out the second quarter (showing more mercy than the ugly northerners deserved), then returned for another touchdown run and passed for a sixth. One must assume that the mercy rule was enacted because the game ended 39-14. Grange’s 402-yard outburst was more than enough to give the sun and blue their first loss since the 1921 Ohio State game in Ann Arbor. ESPN and others claim that this game inspired Grantland Rice to give him the nickname “The Galloping Ghost”, but Grange said that Chicago sportswriter Warren Brown came up with the name. Rice did call him a “gray ghost” in a description of the 1924 game with Michigan. Also after this game, the Chicago Tribune said, “They knew he was coming; they saw him start; he made no secret of his direction; he was in their midst, and he was gone!” In the 20 games he played for Illinois, he ran for 3,362 yards, received for 253, and threw for 575.

Kickoff return TD vs Michigan

But back to Wheaton High School. In his junior year he scored 36 touchdowns while his team went undefeated. In his senior year his team only lost one game. In that game, a 39-0 loss to Toledo’s Scott High School, Grange was knocked out and remained unconscious for two days. Such is the power of Toledo. That Scott High School team was chosen by the National Sports News Service as the national champion. Take that, Illinois!

The Significance of Miami and Ohio

When the Ohio University Bobcats met the Miami University RedHawks at Yager Stadium in The Battle of the Bricks this past weekend, there were more important facts and statistics involved than Ohio’s ranking in the polls. Ohio….and I am talking about Ohio University, located in Athens, Ohio. The one from the Mid-American Conference. The one called the Bobcats. I know it’s difficult for some, uh, slower people to recognize that there’s a difference, but….Oh! So you’re saying he’s NOT stupid, but is in fact trying to get under our skin? Oh! Well, very well done, sir. Clever. You sure got us. Anyway…. Ohio University was ranked twice this year, at 25th in week 7 then at 23rd in week 8. Prior to this year, the Bobcats were last ranked for seven straight weeks in 1968. And that’s it. They were never ranked before that. No doubt they would have been ranked if the AP Poll existed in 1915, a year when the only blemish to their 8-1 record came at the hands of the Redskins of Miami (I still believe that when Miami changed their mascot it should have been to a redskin potato).

How about Miami? They have had far more success on the football field. Overall, Miami is 651-395-44, which compares favorably to Ohio’s 516-525-48. Miami is 7-3 in bowl games, compared to Ohio’s 1-5. Ohio’s lone bowl victory was against Utah State. Miami has defeated the likes of Texas Tech, Arizona State, and today’s fairly successful SEC teams South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida. Then, of course, Miami has seen some big names in the football world come through its program either as player or coach, including Clifton’s Woody Hayes, Barberton’s turncoat Bo Schembechler, Akron’s Ara Parseghian, Norwalk’s Paul Brown, Loudonville’s Ron Zook, Troy’s gone too soon Randy Walker, Toledo’s John Harbaugh, and Lima’s QB with a predilection (allegedly) for non-consensual sex Ben Roethlisberger. All Ohioans. They were champions four times in the Ohio Athletic Conference, three times in the Buckeye Conference, and fifteen times in the Mid-American Conference. They featured in the AP Poll in 1955, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, and 2003, being ranked as high as 10th in two different seasons.

So what is the greater significance of these two schools, one in which Ohio University leads the way? They are the first and second colleges founded in Ohio. Better than that, Ohio University was the first university established in the Northwest Territory and is the ninth oldest public university in the United States, being founded in 1804. It was conceived in the late 18th century, chartered as the American Western University in 1802, then founded one year after Ohio became the first state created out of the Northwest Territory, the 17th in all. Miami University, founded in 1809, is the tenth oldest public university in the United States. It was originally mentioned in an Act of Congress signed by President George Washington (therefore also in the 18th century), but was not passed by the Ohio General Assembly until 1809, and they didn’t get their first president until 1824, which was also when their first classes were held. The school closed in 1873, only to be re-opened in 1885 when it paid off its debts.

                    

So where do these two schools stand in the greater picture? Obviously there were colleges founded in the colonial era, including the Ivy League schools and others including The College of William and Mary and Rutgers. But, outside of the original colonies, where do they stand? I’m glad you asked. As far as I could tell, there were four colleges founded before Ohio University outside of the original colonies (if we’re counting the colonies as not including their western-stretching claims. West of the Appalachian Mountain Range, let’s say). Kentucky’s Transylvania University (1780) was the first college west of the Allegheny Mountains, and the 16th university in the United States. ”Transylvania” means “across the woods”, and it was across the forest from Virginia in its Transylvania colony. Tennessee’s Tusculum College (1794) is the 23rd oldest operating college in the United States. The University of Tennessee (also 1794) was founded as Blount College two years before Tennessee became a state. In 1807 UT was rechartered as East Tennessee College. Finally, the University of Louisville (1798) was the first city-owned public university in the United States. It was founded as Jefferson Seminary, and didn’t actually open until 1813. Now you know. And knowing is half the battle.

                    

So, those of us in the Buckeye Nation were informed recently that we have a rivalry with Penn State. Huh. Who knew? Penn State and wikipedia, apparently. I mean, I’ve had a general dislike of them since they entered into the Big Ten universe, but I never considered them to be anything other than a regular conference rival, like Indiana. Rivalry by proximity, I guess. Personally, and I know everyone has their own feelings on the subject, my ranking of Ohio State’s rivals goes as follows: 1) TTUN, 2) Wisconsin (I was there when Ron Dayne ran all over our field, and it hurt), 3) Illinois, 4) the rest of the Big Ten, led by Michigan State, Penn State, or whoever is good that year. I guess Purdue’s up there too since we’ve had some trouble with them lately. And their engineering program is just so damn good!

I used to think favorably of Penn State. I liked their history and tradition. I had a soft spot in my heart for Joe Paterno, and I wanted him to lead in all-time victories. He was little, old, and talked funny. What’s not to like? Then their fans (or, I should say, a small percentage of them) just became so obnoxious. Most of us have seen the video of the Ohio State fan being pelted with beer cans. I still didn’t hate their team much, just some of their fans. Then, after the whole Sandusky nightmare was brought to the world’s attention, I started to feel sorry for the majority of their fans, and of course for the victims. But do annoying fans, proximity, and only playing them 27 times in 100 years make for a big rivalry? I don’t think so. Maybe if we play them every year for the next 100 years.

There is one area where we have a rivalry: Recruiting. Both states are breeding grounds for high school football talent. Although we have each snatched players from the other’s state, neither school has a 2013 commitment from the other’s state yet. There are quite a few potential recruits who are undecided and currently considering both Ohio State and Penn State. Here’s some of their info (thanks to espn):

  • Robert Foster, PA – 88 (espn grade), 4 star, offers from both OSU & PSU
  • Dorian Johnson, PA – 88, 4 star, offers from both, guest at Nebraska-OSU game, decommitted from PSU
  • Laquon Treadwell, IL – 87, 4 star, offer from OSU
  • Derrick Green, VA – 86, 4 star, offers from both
  • David Williams, PA – 83, 4 star, offers from both
  • Alquadin Muhammad, NJ – 83, 4 star, offers from both
  • Corey Clement, NJ – 83, 4 star, offers from both
  • Donovan Munger, OH – 82, 4 star, offers from both, guest at Nebraska-OSU game
  • William Houston, OH – 75, 3 star, neither have offered, guest at Nebraska-OSU game
  • Corey Smith, OH – not ranked, offers from both

The Nebraska game was a really big day for recruiting for Ohio State, maybe second only to The Game. But this should be a pretty important one too. It would be really nice to put on a show for any of these potential recruits who make it to the game (or are watching on tv), like at the Nebraska game. Winning is, of course, the most important thing, but it would be nice if we could get away from the stressful, ugly play that almost hurt us in the last two games. 2014 recruit Thaddeus Snodgrass (Springfield, OH) went to the Purdue game and is still considering OSU and PSU. It would be really nice to put on a better offensive performance, but I would love to see a more commanding defensive performance like those we became accustomed to during the Tressel era. The recruits are watching, and it would be nice to win the game AND the recruiting rivalry.

Their 900 Wins

Congratulations are in order. As much as I despise that stupid, stupid team from up north of Toledo somewhere, I think that it should be recognized that on Saturday, October 20, 2012, they became the first college football team to win 900 games. The nearly equally ugly folks at Michigan State could have and should have kept this milestone at bay for another week, but there it is. It’s in the books now. Whoopity doo.

One hundred and thirty-three years ago, this same team from that same school up north won its first game. It was a 1-0 victory over the now defunct Racine College Purple Stockings and was played at Chicago’s Grant Park on May 30, 1879. The “rugby-football” game was played in two 45-minute “innings”, and would be unidentifiable to today’s football fan. By one account, “…when one of them caught the ball he instantly passed it to a colleague nearer the enemy’s goal and they were only discomfited when they practiced Racine’s attempt to run with the ball dodging others.” Clearly Deenard Robinson was not playing, as they passed well and struggled to run with the ball. The second and final game of this season was played (in what sane persons would consider the following season) on November 1, 1879 against the University of Toronto. Played in Detroit, the game ended in a 0-0 tie. The Detroit Free Press announced approximately 500 attendees, while UM’s records shockingly list a figure three times as large. If my experience of sitting in the visitors’ section at the “big” house is any indication, then they probably stuffed those 500 fans into 450 seats. BURN! Considering the dominance exhibited by this 1-0-1 season, it is amazing that the pollsters did not reward TTUN with a national championship.

In 1880, TTUN recorded its first undefeated and untied season with a record of 1-0-0. They unleashed hell in a return match against the University of Toronto in their own backyard: The Toronto Lacrosse Club. This 13-6 drubbing was the worst slaughter on this site since the now famous 1872 Hamilton Thursday Gentleman’s Lacrosse Club victory over the East York School for Boys.

The wolverines would not look this silly again until they donned their corn and blue.

In 1881, TTUN recorded its first losing season. In fact, it was their worst season ever. Perhaps playing actual football for the first time, and certainly against quality opponents for the first time, they went 0-3-0 against the Ivy League’s best, and oldest schools.

The 1882 season was memorable for two terrible reasons. First, they did not lose a single game. Luckily, they also neither won nor tied any games, as they did not play anyone from another school that year. Second, this was the first year during which an Ohioan earned a varsity letter for treason. Yes sir, Mr Horace Prettyman from Stryker, Ohio played “rusher” for the wolverines. You heard me right: Prettyman. Seems rather appropriate to me. He is also remembered as winning the most varsity letters for football, having played for eight years in Ann Arbor.

I’m not sure how you earn a varsity letter in a year when you don’t play any other teams…

Other opponents in the early years include the Detroit Independents, Stevens Institute of Technology, Windsor (from Ontario), Peninsular Cricket Club, the Detroit Athletic Club, Ann Arbor High School, the Michigan Military Academy, Rush Lake Forest, Physicians and Surgeons-Chicago, and Grand Rapids High School.

A game that was not included in the official team statistics was an 1885 match against the Princess football team from Detroit. It was played on roller skates, on a roller rink. Seriously. TTUN won, as they excel at roller skating.

In 1890, they defeated the Purdue Boilermakers in the first match-up of future Big Ten schools. In 1892 they would play against five future Big Ten schools, going 2-3 against Wisconsin(w), Minnesota(l), Purdue(l), Northwestern(l), and Chicago(w). The foundations had been laid for the formation of the Western College Athletic League, later the Big Ten.

October 16, 1897 saw Ohio State lose to TTUN in the very first installment of The Game. Booooooooooo!

In 1901 they got a new head coach named Fielding Yost, won the first ever college football bowl game (a 49-0 Rose Bowl victory over Stanford), and won their first national championship (shared with Harvard and Yale).

Aaaaaaaaand at about this point I grow sick of this project. I quit. Congratulations stupid michigan. I hate you.

Sincerely,

Me

Ohio Pride

I am a proud Ohioan, born and raised. Even though I have spent the majority of my post-OSU days outside of the Buckeye State, I always maintained that pride. Especially in sports. I still checked some of the local papers online for scores, got pissed off when Pennsylvania beat Ohio in the Big 33 Football Classic, looked for St Ignatius, St Xavier and the like in the national football rankings, and, of course, wore my Ohio State shirts everywhere. I took none of the intended offense at being called “Ohio” by that big, sloppy man who will be coaching that team up north for the next couple of years; and I burst with schadenfreude when their basketball team lost to the real Ohio University this past March.

Now I’m back in Ohio and recently received a jolting refreshment of my Ohio pride when I attended the fantastic Nebraska-Ohio State football game with the Buckeye Ninja. Then came a small explosion in my twittersphere when Ohio State, the University of Cincinnati, and Ohio University all featured in this week’s AP Top 25 at numbers 7, 21, and 25, respectively. (Of course, the BCS and USA Today polls chose not to include our scofflaw Buckeyes in their rankings.) But this made me wonder if such a thing has ever happened before, that three teams from the Great State of Ohio featured in the same AP poll. Our state does have a relatively large number of FBS schools, but only two that are in automatically qualifying conferences, one of which has been ranked regularly in polls of the past. (The Buckeye Ninja had to remind me that the Big East is indeed an AQ conference. Who knew?) Where California, Texas, and Florida (three of the four biggest states by population) have multiple major FBS schools from BCS automatically qualifying conferences, we have Ohio State and seven mid-majors. Even Indiana has three major BCS AQ schools. Indiana!

So I did a little research and found that, yes, it has happened before. For five consecutive AP Polls in 2003 there were three Ohio schools in the Top 25. The November 9th, 16th, 23rd, and 30th, and the final rankings all saw Ohio State, Miami University, and Bowling Green ranked. Ohio State peaked at 4th, Miami peaked at 10th, and Bowling Green peaked at 20th in those polls.

It also happened back on November 5, 1973, when the AP Poll only ranked twenty teams. In that week’s poll, Ohio State was ranked #1, Miami University was 17th, and Kent State was 19th. Earlier in that season Ohio State had been joined in the polls by Bowling Green, who was ranked 20th.

Of course, the appearance of Ohio State, Cincinnati, and Ohio U in this week’s AP Poll is made even more impressive considering the fact that all three schools (along with Xavier!) also made it to the Sweet Sixteen in this year’s NCAA Basketball Tournament. Impressive. Most impressive. My Ohio pride runneth over.

P.S.-Ohio State has been in 796 AP Polls, the most of any school. We are followed by Michigan (780), Oklahoma (728), Notre Dame (722), Southern California (714), Texas (693), Nebraska (691), Alabama (685), Penn State (591), and Tennessee (565).