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Penn State v Nebraska

In honor of the Big Ten Network’s constant attempts to include pre-1993 Penn State and pre-2011 Nebraska in Big Ten history, I would like to highlight the age-old Penn State-Nebraska rivalry. Known for 63 years as “The Battle Of The Two Furthest Apart Schools That Will Eventually Be In The Big Ten”, or “The Battle of Newcomers Pissing Off Old-Time Big Ten Teams by Possibly Winning the League Tournament Early in Its History”. Rolls off the tongue.

The rivalry has four trophies: The Old Mahogany Bucket, The Little Burnt Sienna Jug, Johnny Appleseed’s Axe, and The Golden Visa/Shell Rewards Card For Travel to the Game”. After all, the two schools are 1,075 miles apart, which is over 18 hours in the car.

So, without further ado, I present you with the entirety of the Penn State-Nebraska Rivalry (it fits on one page!):

By all accounts, this was among PSU’s more dany-ish teams.

1949 @Penn St 22-7 Nebraska

1950 @Nebraska 19-0 Penn St

1951 Penn St 15-7 @Nebraska

Pennsylvania State College

1952 @Penn St(19) 10-0 Nebraska

1958 @Nebraska 14-7 Penn St

1979 @Nebraska(6) 42-17 Penn St(18)

1980 Nebraska(3) 21-7 @Penn St(11)

1981 Penn St(3) 30-24 @Nebraska(15)

The teams met after the football game for a little quidditch.

1982 @Penn St(8) 27-24 Nebraska(2) *PSU national champ

1983 Nebraska(1) 44-6 Penn St (4) (Giants Stadium)

2002 @Penn St(NR,25) 40-7 Nebraska(8,7)

Yes. It’s “UN”, not “NU”.

2003 @Nebraska(18) 18-10 Penn St

2011 Nebraska(19) 17-14 @Penn St(12)

For some reason Matt McGloin was left out of this team picture.

2012 Penn St at Nebraska(18)

All time series: Nebraska 7-6 Penn St

The 11th Game

The Bye Week. What is there to talk about during a bye week? Well, good job so far, fellas. A very good job so far. As we all know, these battlin’ Buckeyes of our’s will be going into the Wisconsin game with an unblemished record, 10-0. So I decided to pick the bye week to have a short little discussion (with myself) about going into the eleventh game of the season and being 10-0. The Buckeyes have played an 11th game of the season for the past 40 years. Every year from 1972 on has seen an 11th game. Then you have to go all the way back to 1905 to see another 11th game. And there was a 12th game in that 8-2-2 season. 1904 had eleven games, including a loss to the Carlisle Indians a few years before Jim Thorpe enrolled. In 1903 OSU was 8-3. In 1896 we were 5-5-1. In 1894 we were 6-5. In all, the Ohio State Buckeyes are 47-47-1 in games eleven and beyond (24-20-1 in 11th games only). That’s not too bad considering many of those games were bowl games and Cooper era Michigan games.

We have only been 10-0 going into that 11th game seven times. Well, eight, including this season. And we’ve been undefeated ten times. And in how many of those nine previous undefeated seasons did we finish with an undefeated record? Two times. 2002′s national championship season, and 1973′s Rose Bowl-winning, USC-defeating, 10-0-1 season. Of course, this season is different. We have “nothing” to play for. Well, we have an undefeated season to play for. We have The Game to play for, which is a lot considering that it IS the most important game of the season. And now on November 17th, if we needed something else to play for, we can be playing for only the sixth 11-0 record in our history. Go Bucks!

 

When you’re as lazy and shiftless as we are, you end up watching a lot of college football on Saturdays. It’s pretty awesome. So Ye Olde Buckeye and The Buckeye Ninja have collaborated on a top 25 poll.

Trust us, We’ve got Excel spreadsheets and shit.

As always, any complaints about this or any of our other content can be brought up with Ye Olde Buckeye at his Twitter account. First-place votes are in parentheses.

2012 Buckeye Ninja Poll – Week 11 (Nov. 5)
Rank Team Total Points
1 Alabama (2) 50
2 Kansas St 47
2 (tie) Oregon 47
4 Ohio State 44
5 Notre Dame 42
6 Georgia 38
7 LSU 37
7 (tie) Florida State 37
9 Florida 36
10 Oregon State 29
10 (tie) Clemson 29
10 (tie) Stanford 29
13 Texas A&M 25
14 South Carolina 24
15 Oklahoma 21
15 (tie) Nebraska 21
15 (tie) Louisville 21
18 Texas 15
19 USC 13
20 Texas Tech 12
21 UCLA 10
22 Northwestern 8
22 (tie) That Team Up North 8
24 Mississippi State 3
25 Louisiana Tech 2

Also receiving votes: Toledo (1), Ohio (1), West Virginia (1)

Thoughts (Buckeye Ninja) - The top 5 remains unchanged and everything else basically gets shuffled around a bit. Four teams made our top 25 from the B1G, and a fifth (Wisky) is sitting just outside. They might make it into the poll in time for the game in two weeks. We shall see. YOB is still more bullish on the middle of the SEC  than we are – outside of LSU and Alabama all we see are several good but not great teams. The only reason they’re ranked as highly as they are is simply that no one is any better this year. More on this phenomenon later.

There’s not much we can add to the headline. Ohio State came out fast (for them) and never let up, defeating the Illini by thirty.

We have a few issues with the game: Flash Stoneurner dropped two passes that hit him in the hands and Kenny G smoothly fumbled away an option pitch that Illinois returned for a touchdown. In honesty these were just as they appear to be – minor quibbles.

The defense committed several boneheaded penalties – as seems to be its habit – but only one really seemed to hurt the team, giving Illinois a first down where they would otherwise have had to settle for a field goal attempt. They ended up scoring a touchdown on the drive instead.

Otherwise the team did everything we could have expected them to do. They dominated on offense, they dominated in defense, and they ensured that we didn’t have to suffer through a reprisal of the last few minutes of the Indiana game.

Well done, everyone.

The Verdict

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The Good: The quick (for us) start
The offense
The defense

The Bad: Stupid penalties
Dropped passes

Ohio State – Illinois Preview

Illinois at Ohio State
3:30 Eastern/1:30 Mountain (ESPN)

We don’t want to step on YOB’s excellent post so this will be short and sweet.

Illinois is turrible. In our scientific NCAA 13 Buckeye Result Prediction Trials, the Fightin’ Buckeyes of the Olentangy won handily 28-13. It wasn’t a huge win but Simon and Hankins basically ate Scheelhaase alive. Which could totally happen tomorrow.

Also the Buckeye offense false started on the first play of the game and the defense gave up a stupid touchdown when they allowed a TE to get wide open deep in the first quarter. Who says video games aren’t realistic?

Our guaranteed* prediction: OSU 42, Illinois 10

Red Grange was chosen as the Big Ten’s greatest icon by the Big Ten Network. I would have preferred that it be Woody Hayes, Archie Griffin, or Chic Harley (who wasn’t even included!), but I can’t complain too much about the choice of Grange. I’m just glad it wasn’t Bo Sklembachlor or Tom Osborne (since the BTN is so dead set on trying to convince the world that all of Nebraska and Penn State’s histories are relevant to Big Ten fans).

Harold Edward “Red” Grange was born in Forksville, Pennsylvania in 1903, but his family moved to Wheaton, Illinois when he was five. He was a high school, college, and pro football star, commentator, and some time actor. The day after his final college football game (against Ohio State) he and player/coach George Halas agreed terms for a contract with the Chicago Bears. Apparently he did alright for himself, but I’m more concerned with his school days.

After being a four sport star at Wheaton High School, earning 16 varsity letters in football, basketball, baseball, and track, he enrolled at the University of Illinois with the intention of competing only in basketball and track. He scored three touchdowns against Nebraska in his first game for the Illini, who went on to go undefeated and win the 1923 national championship – as did Fielding Yost’s Michigan team, since the teams didn’t play each other in that year’s Big Ten schedule. They did play in 1924 though, and every Buckeye should be a Red Grange fan for what he did to the defending national champion Wolverines in Memorial Stadium’s opening game. First, he returned the opening kickoff 95 yards for a touchdown. Then, he scored on a 67 yard run, again on a 56 yard run, and again on a 44 yard run, all in the game’s first 12 minutes. Those four touchdowns equaled the amount of touchdowns that Michigan had allowed during the entirety of the previous two seasons. He then sat out the second quarter (showing more mercy than the ugly northerners deserved), then returned for another touchdown run and passed for a sixth. One must assume that the mercy rule was enacted because the game ended 39-14. Grange’s 402-yard outburst was more than enough to give the sun and blue their first loss since the 1921 Ohio State game in Ann Arbor. ESPN and others claim that this game inspired Grantland Rice to give him the nickname “The Galloping Ghost”, but Grange said that Chicago sportswriter Warren Brown came up with the name. Rice did call him a “gray ghost” in a description of the 1924 game with Michigan. Also after this game, the Chicago Tribune said, “They knew he was coming; they saw him start; he made no secret of his direction; he was in their midst, and he was gone!” In the 20 games he played for Illinois, he ran for 3,362 yards, received for 253, and threw for 575.

Kickoff return TD vs Michigan

But back to Wheaton High School. In his junior year he scored 36 touchdowns while his team went undefeated. In his senior year his team only lost one game. In that game, a 39-0 loss to Toledo’s Scott High School, Grange was knocked out and remained unconscious for two days. Such is the power of Toledo. That Scott High School team was chosen by the National Sports News Service as the national champion. Take that, Illinois!

The Significance of Miami and Ohio

When the Ohio University Bobcats met the Miami University RedHawks at Yager Stadium in The Battle of the Bricks this past weekend, there were more important facts and statistics involved than Ohio’s ranking in the polls. Ohio….and I am talking about Ohio University, located in Athens, Ohio. The one from the Mid-American Conference. The one called the Bobcats. I know it’s difficult for some, uh, slower people to recognize that there’s a difference, but….Oh! So you’re saying he’s NOT stupid, but is in fact trying to get under our skin? Oh! Well, very well done, sir. Clever. You sure got us. Anyway…. Ohio University was ranked twice this year, at 25th in week 7 then at 23rd in week 8. Prior to this year, the Bobcats were last ranked for seven straight weeks in 1968. And that’s it. They were never ranked before that. No doubt they would have been ranked if the AP Poll existed in 1915, a year when the only blemish to their 8-1 record came at the hands of the Redskins of Miami (I still believe that when Miami changed their mascot it should have been to a redskin potato).

How about Miami? They have had far more success on the football field. Overall, Miami is 651-395-44, which compares favorably to Ohio’s 516-525-48. Miami is 7-3 in bowl games, compared to Ohio’s 1-5. Ohio’s lone bowl victory was against Utah State. Miami has defeated the likes of Texas Tech, Arizona State, and today’s fairly successful SEC teams South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida. Then, of course, Miami has seen some big names in the football world come through its program either as player or coach, including Clifton’s Woody Hayes, Barberton’s turncoat Bo Schembechler, Akron’s Ara Parseghian, Norwalk’s Paul Brown, Loudonville’s Ron Zook, Troy’s gone too soon Randy Walker, Toledo’s John Harbaugh, and Lima’s QB with a predilection (allegedly) for non-consensual sex Ben Roethlisberger. All Ohioans. They were champions four times in the Ohio Athletic Conference, three times in the Buckeye Conference, and fifteen times in the Mid-American Conference. They featured in the AP Poll in 1955, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, and 2003, being ranked as high as 10th in two different seasons.

So what is the greater significance of these two schools, one in which Ohio University leads the way? They are the first and second colleges founded in Ohio. Better than that, Ohio University was the first university established in the Northwest Territory and is the ninth oldest public university in the United States, being founded in 1804. It was conceived in the late 18th century, chartered as the American Western University in 1802, then founded one year after Ohio became the first state created out of the Northwest Territory, the 17th in all. Miami University, founded in 1809, is the tenth oldest public university in the United States. It was originally mentioned in an Act of Congress signed by President George Washington (therefore also in the 18th century), but was not passed by the Ohio General Assembly until 1809, and they didn’t get their first president until 1824, which was also when their first classes were held. The school closed in 1873, only to be re-opened in 1885 when it paid off its debts.

                    

So where do these two schools stand in the greater picture? Obviously there were colleges founded in the colonial era, including the Ivy League schools and others including The College of William and Mary and Rutgers. But, outside of the original colonies, where do they stand? I’m glad you asked. As far as I could tell, there were four colleges founded before Ohio University outside of the original colonies (if we’re counting the colonies as not including their western-stretching claims. West of the Appalachian Mountain Range, let’s say). Kentucky’s Transylvania University (1780) was the first college west of the Allegheny Mountains, and the 16th university in the United States. ”Transylvania” means “across the woods”, and it was across the forest from Virginia in its Transylvania colony. Tennessee’s Tusculum College (1794) is the 23rd oldest operating college in the United States. The University of Tennessee (also 1794) was founded as Blount College two years before Tennessee became a state. In 1807 UT was rechartered as East Tennessee College. Finally, the University of Louisville (1798) was the first city-owned public university in the United States. It was founded as Jefferson Seminary, and didn’t actually open until 1813. Now you know. And knowing is half the battle.

                    

When you’re as lazy and shiftless as we are, you end up watching a lot of college football on Saturdays. It’s pretty awesome. So Ye Olde Buckeye and The Buckeye Ninja have collaborated on a top 25 poll. The only thing we agreed on was Alabama at #1 and (strangely) Boise at #24. The points are just the average between our placements – for example YOB had Georgia #6 (20 points) and we had them at #9 (17 points) giving them their total of 37.

Trust us, We’ve got Excel spreadsheets and shit.

Any complaints about this or any of our other content can be brought up with Ye Olde Buckeye at his Twitter account. First-place votes are in parentheses.

 

2012 Buckeye Ninja Poll – Week 10 (Oct. 29)
Rank Team Total Points
1 Alabama (2) 50
2 Kansas St 47
2 (tie) Oregon 47
4 Ohio St 43
4 (tie) Notre Dame 43
6 Georgia 37
7 Florida 35
7 (tie) Oregon St 35
7 (tie) Florida St 35
10 LSU 33
11 Clemson 32
12 Stanford 25
13 Texas A&M 24
13 (tie) Mississippi St 24
15 South Carolina 22
16 Louisville 21
17 Oklahoma 17
17 (tie) Texas Tech 17
17 (tie) Nebraska 17
20 West Virginia 13
20 (tie) USC 13
22 UCLA 7
22 (tie) Louisiana Tech 7
24 Boise St 4
25 Northwestern 1
25 (tie) Arizona 1

Thoughts (Buckeye Ninja)we’re not convinced the SEC, outside of Alabama, is as dominant as it has been of late. Georgia, LSU, and South Carolina (even before Lattimore’s injury) seemed like good but flawed teams, but unfortunately all they’re doing right now is beating up on each other so it’s difficult to see where they stand compared to the rest of the country. Florida was – to us – by far the second best team in conference, but we couldn’t rank them ahead of Georgia after last weekend. We ranked Florida State and Clemson higher than YOB did, probably because we’re idiots. Brasky seems properly rated – around 15 or so, even though its defense can be a dumpster fire at times.

Also, looks like we need a third writer to break all these ties.